Fine essay, although a more accurate title might be “How They’ve Kept Ruining Superhero Deaths in Comics.” The whole “Uncle Ben stays dead” thing doesn’t hold much water when one considers the various “Spider-Verse” stories where there’s always at least one variant Spidey with Ben under the mask, but as long as the main 616 Ben is never permanently revived, I don’t see much issue there.
Persistent rumors from the “Avengers: Doomsday” beat indicate Doctor Doom’s uncanny resemblance to Tony Stark could be a minor plot point down the line; he’s apparently not set to reveal his face in the upcoming film, but it’s a sure bet that will happen in the “Secret Wars” sequel. It’s interesting to me that Tony staying dead is a bigger issue with fans than any of the other major deaths of “Endgame.” Black Widow felt huge, but she’s been quickly forgotten and replaced by Yelena Belova on the Thunderbolts (I don’t plan on calling them “New Avengers” until I feel they’ve earned that distinction). Gamora, Drax, and the other Guardians were all revived in time for “Vol. 3,” so there’s no lingering pain there. I’d argue Aunt May’s death in “No Way Home” was more shocking and will leave a far greater impact, but it seems like Peter Parker and the Spidey films in general are moving on from mourning her quite fast. It seems the real answer to dealing with big character deaths in these films is to just move on to a different interesting character inhabiting sort of the same role. Perhaps a touch more realistic and acceptable than any alternatives, but still messed up in a way.
I think bringing back Robert Downey Jr, who essentially kicked off the MCU, is seen as an act of desperation. Natasha’s death at least was a finale to her character arc of trying to relieve her own guilt, the “red of her ledger” angle. I didn’t see No Way Home because the first MCU Spider-Man just didn’t impress me adaptationwise and that’s when things were going south in that area. It’s not like May did much in the first movie, but maybe she was more of a presence in the following sequels? At any rate, I think intention is playing a part.
The original video was called “How They Ruined Superhero Movies”, which is a less accurate description than what I went with.
Fine essay, although a more accurate title might be “How They’ve Kept Ruining Superhero Deaths in Comics.” The whole “Uncle Ben stays dead” thing doesn’t hold much water when one considers the various “Spider-Verse” stories where there’s always at least one variant Spidey with Ben under the mask, but as long as the main 616 Ben is never permanently revived, I don’t see much issue there.
Persistent rumors from the “Avengers: Doomsday” beat indicate Doctor Doom’s uncanny resemblance to Tony Stark could be a minor plot point down the line; he’s apparently not set to reveal his face in the upcoming film, but it’s a sure bet that will happen in the “Secret Wars” sequel. It’s interesting to me that Tony staying dead is a bigger issue with fans than any of the other major deaths of “Endgame.” Black Widow felt huge, but she’s been quickly forgotten and replaced by Yelena Belova on the Thunderbolts (I don’t plan on calling them “New Avengers” until I feel they’ve earned that distinction). Gamora, Drax, and the other Guardians were all revived in time for “Vol. 3,” so there’s no lingering pain there. I’d argue Aunt May’s death in “No Way Home” was more shocking and will leave a far greater impact, but it seems like Peter Parker and the Spidey films in general are moving on from mourning her quite fast. It seems the real answer to dealing with big character deaths in these films is to just move on to a different interesting character inhabiting sort of the same role. Perhaps a touch more realistic and acceptable than any alternatives, but still messed up in a way.
LikeLike
I think bringing back Robert Downey Jr, who essentially kicked off the MCU, is seen as an act of desperation. Natasha’s death at least was a finale to her character arc of trying to relieve her own guilt, the “red of her ledger” angle. I didn’t see No Way Home because the first MCU Spider-Man just didn’t impress me adaptationwise and that’s when things were going south in that area. It’s not like May did much in the first movie, but maybe she was more of a presence in the following sequels? At any rate, I think intention is playing a part.
The original video was called “How They Ruined Superhero Movies”, which is a less accurate description than what I went with.
LikeLike