I don’t think of these as franchise failures, but more as good characters and teams handed over to creatives that didn’t know what to do with them. Given how Marvel likes to work in bulk, it’s little surprise to me that the past six years would read like a graveyard. Even with that, I still think some of these have gained an appreciative audience in recent times. “Shang-Chi” and the “Black Panther” sequel have sizable fan cults, “Daredevil: Born Again” appeals strongly to leftover fans from the Netflix show, and “Thunderbolts” seems to be undergoing a critical reanalysis and is finding the right audience at the right time. That still leaves a lot of dead names, but I have a proposal that could give the likes of Dr. Strange, the two Marvel girls, and other misfits a bit of afterlife.
One strength of Avengers comics in the ’70s was seeing faded stars like Ant-Man, Black Panther, and Vision get more definition simply by having meaningful roles on the team. I imagine “Doomsday” could prove a similar case for MCU franchisees that may not have worked out as solo efforts, but could contribute well in a team setting. That was sort of the appeal of prior “Avengers” films, seeing the old gang get back together along with successful new stars, watching the group dynamic change in reaction to events from solo films, iron sharpening iron, the group becoming stronger, more durable, adding to their glorious legacy. Granted, that approach could suck given these new guys’ track record, but since “Defenders” has already been used for that lousy street hero team, I gotta work with what little I’ve got. Heck, I’m still holding out for a good “Son of Satan” adaptation, which I’m likely never to see considering that Hulu “Hellstorm” show tanked hardest of any of these projects.
I haven’t seen the show, but the fans of Netflix Daredevil I follow are less than happy with Born Again and the other MCU D+ shows that used Kingpin. JesterBell also posted a video later this week talking about the goal being to replace older heroes with the new incarnations and she’s not the only one I saw say that this week. It does seem like they want to use the Brand to push their characters, probably because they either don’t have enough faith in them or believe that will suddenly make them as beloved as the classic characters. They’re wrong, of course, but they think in marketing and their own preferences rather than storytelling or understanding the fans/genre/brands.
I don’t think of these as franchise failures, but more as good characters and teams handed over to creatives that didn’t know what to do with them. Given how Marvel likes to work in bulk, it’s little surprise to me that the past six years would read like a graveyard. Even with that, I still think some of these have gained an appreciative audience in recent times. “Shang-Chi” and the “Black Panther” sequel have sizable fan cults, “Daredevil: Born Again” appeals strongly to leftover fans from the Netflix show, and “Thunderbolts” seems to be undergoing a critical reanalysis and is finding the right audience at the right time. That still leaves a lot of dead names, but I have a proposal that could give the likes of Dr. Strange, the two Marvel girls, and other misfits a bit of afterlife.
One strength of Avengers comics in the ’70s was seeing faded stars like Ant-Man, Black Panther, and Vision get more definition simply by having meaningful roles on the team. I imagine “Doomsday” could prove a similar case for MCU franchisees that may not have worked out as solo efforts, but could contribute well in a team setting. That was sort of the appeal of prior “Avengers” films, seeing the old gang get back together along with successful new stars, watching the group dynamic change in reaction to events from solo films, iron sharpening iron, the group becoming stronger, more durable, adding to their glorious legacy. Granted, that approach could suck given these new guys’ track record, but since “Defenders” has already been used for that lousy street hero team, I gotta work with what little I’ve got. Heck, I’m still holding out for a good “Son of Satan” adaptation, which I’m likely never to see considering that Hulu “Hellstorm” show tanked hardest of any of these projects.
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I haven’t seen the show, but the fans of Netflix Daredevil I follow are less than happy with Born Again and the other MCU D+ shows that used Kingpin. JesterBell also posted a video later this week talking about the goal being to replace older heroes with the new incarnations and she’s not the only one I saw say that this week. It does seem like they want to use the Brand to push their characters, probably because they either don’t have enough faith in them or believe that will suddenly make them as beloved as the classic characters. They’re wrong, of course, but they think in marketing and their own preferences rather than storytelling or understanding the fans/genre/brands.
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